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If A

  1. If A
  2. When A; after A (then B)
    Shows a sequence of events that are tied together in after one occurs, the next one follows.
  3. When A, then B
    A and B have a cause/effect relationship.
  4. How about A; why don't you A
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ひまだったら  ちょっと つだ  くれない  
If you're free, couldn't you help me a bit?
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 だったら    だけ    もらって    さっさと     
If it was me, I would accept just the meal then hurry on home afterwards.
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     だったら  ちょっと   してきなさい  
If you're short on sleep, please take a short nap.

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がこれがったら、ってれなくなる。
If the temperature keeps on falling, the streets will freeze and we won't be able to get home.
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Construction
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AVerb: Casual, past (た)
Basic Examples:
したら (if (I) studied)

Aい-adjective: た form
Basic Examples:
かったら (if it's low)

ANoun
だった
Basic Examples:
あなただったら (if (I) were you)

Aな-adjective
だった
Basic Examples:
かだったり (if it's quiet)

Notes
While A uses a past tense form, it is referring to a supposition about an event that hasn't yet occurred. The phrase following it is always in the present tense.
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When A; after A (then B)
Shows a sequence of events that are tied together in after one occurs, the next one follows.

  1. If A
  2. When A; after A (then B)
    Shows a sequence of events that are tied together in after one occurs, the next one follows.
  3. When A, then B
    A and B have a cause/effect relationship.
  4. How about A; why don't you A
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          する   
I will give you a call after I get home.
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    ドア  しめよ  
Shut the door after you.
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よく      あとで      よく なる  
After you have a good sleep, you'll feel a lot better.

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AVerb: Casual, past (た)
BVerb (non past)
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When A, then B
A and B have a cause/effect relationship.

  1. If A
  2. When A; after A (then B)
    Shows a sequence of events that are tied together in after one occurs, the next one follows.
  3. When A, then B
    A and B have a cause/effect relationship.
  4. How about A; why don't you A
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シャワー          すっきり した  
I felt refreshed after showering.
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あの ビル                  なってしまう  
After that building is built, the sun will no longer shine on our house.
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  なったら        しよう  
When spring comes let's all go see the cherry blossoms!

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AVerb: Casual, past (た)
BVerb (past)
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How about A; why don't you A

  1. If A
  2. When A; after A (then B)
    Shows a sequence of events that are tied together in after one occurs, the next one follows.
  3. When A, then B
    A and B have a cause/effect relationship.
  4. How about A; why don't you A
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こうよう   たら どうですか  
How about going to see the fall colors?
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もう     どう です   
You may as well go home now.
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ダイエット したら どう   
Why don't you go on a diet?
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その      したら どう だい  
Why don't you apply for that job?
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          どう です   
Why don't you make it yourself?
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あの              どう  
Why not try some of that white wine?

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AVerb: Casual, past (た)
Notes
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This sentence is usually followed by どうですか or the more polite いかがですか. In casual speech, it can be dropped completely.

Example:

んだらどうですか。(polite)
んだら? (casual)
12 years ago
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On meaning 1, I think the top one is supposed to say "[Adjective: た form] A + ら" but it doesn't. What I see is: "[] A + ら". When I click to see examples, I see adjectives.
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13 years ago (Edited 13 years ago.)
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Fixed, thanks!
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13 years ago
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1. The third basic usage type When A, after A, then B--says the second clause is in non past form. But the third example sentence has the second clause in past form.

2. Another note: What about the meaning where, When A happened, surprisingly B happened. Like: ったら、さんがていました。When I came home, Mr. Tanaka was there (unexpectedly). I mention this usage, but I also have a few questions about it: How often is this type of ‾ たらused in reality? And how can you tell if someone means this unexpected event as opposed to two events that occurred in succession in the past? I would love some light shed on this topic.

3. One more way to use ~たらis to refer to improbable things happening. Like もしになったら、V-non past. If I become famous, I'll do V. Similarly, you can say しっぱいだったら、げなかった。If I had made a blunder, I wouldn't have gotten a good grade, implying that I did get a good grade.
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11 years ago
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1. Fixed to non-past, thanks.

2. I'll ask about this if I get a chance!

3. Do you think this is (the 'improbable' bit) actually a different meaning, a more an extension of the 'if/then' formation? I'll have to ask a friend, but I'm guessing that you could probably use it to represent something that is probable as well. I'm looking at the entry in the Basic Grammar Dictionary (the big, huge grammar dictionaries you can find just about everywhere), and it makes no reference to this 'usage'.

So, I feel like this is more just an example of how an if/then or action1->action2 structure can be extended. What do you think?
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11 years ago
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3. そうですね… Okay, I think I agree with you now that these "usages" are really just extensions of the same usage. We have model sentences to show how different situations/ideas can be conveyed. Thanks!

Edit:
I was just looking over my old notes and found something. The past tense usage of ‾たら always means a surprise situation. Is this really true? えば、
Verb A-tara + Verb B-ta (past tense) = surprise situation!
ったら、った。X
You can't say this because it couldn't have been a surprise situation. Do you see what I mean? I have this rule in my notes distinctly.. Can anyone confirm this?
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11 years ago (Edited 11 years ago.)
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な-adjective: た form+ら

Is this not supposed to be な-adjective+ だった +ら?
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11 years ago (Edited 11 years ago.)
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Technically, it was correct (た means past, casual form, so だった), but I agree that it could be cleared, so I've switched it up. Thanks!!
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11 years ago
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Sorry for bothering again, but what's the difference between the 3rd and 4th usage? And something else, is なら and たら the same? What's the difference?
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11 years ago
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One is a series of events that may or may not be cause-effect related, while one shows a cause-effect relationship.

As to なら/たら, I'll have to leave someone else to answering that - I have a very fuzzy understanding of it from soaking it up from those around me - someone that knows it on a more technical side will be better at explaining it.
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11 years ago
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could you possibly use this version of the "if" when saying something along the lines of

If i did it, i didnt meant to? in that sense of well if it happened blah blah blah
もしやったら、つもりじゃなかったよ
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10 years ago
Level: 1, : 1
Vましたらというのは"if"のことだ。 ではない。だからからない。
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8 years ago (Edited 8 years ago.)
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The third sentence of the first usage uses なら instead of たら .
Also, the adjective construction examples say  たり instead.
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4 years ago
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Fixed both issues!
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4 years ago
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Can someone explain to me the difference between #2 and #3, please? They look quite the same to me.

Btw... "This is used to given a suggestion, A, to whomever the sentence is directed at. " should be "give" instead of "given" (notes #4)

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1 year ago
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Cleaned up the meanings a bit, moved relevant info up from the notes into the secondary meaning.

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1 year ago
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I have just watched this lesson on youtube. Though the explanation is not perfectly clear to me, there doesn't necessarily seem to be a cause/effect relationship in the "tara + past tense" construction.
For some reason I have been totally oblivious to the fact the #3 uses past tense. Now I wonder where I should put the example sentence I had originally written under #3, for it uses present tense. (りたらすのがだ。) Is it closer to #1 or #2?

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1 year ago
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たら can be translated as 'when' (meaning #2) if the condition before it represents a certainty. For instance:

になったら = when you grow up (you surely will at some point)

っていたら = if I had known (but I didn't)

たら = when/if the teacher comes (based on context, e.g. at the start of class 'when', misbehaving in the schoolyard 'if').

Words like もし can help in case of such ambiguity (もし is always 'if').

So, it depends on your intent, but I would probably put your sentence under #1.

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1 year ago (Edited 1 year ago.)



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