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Marks the end of the non-exhaustive list A
List A only gives a few of a longer list; these terms are often separated by など or や.

  1. Marks the end of the non-exhaustive list A
    List A only gives a few of a longer list; these terms are often separated by など or や.
  2. Things like A; for example A
  3. Used to emphasize negative B
    B can be things such as a negative adjective (きらい), or a verb (できない、いらない, etc).
  4. How A; What A
    Shows a very strong feeling A about something.
  5. Shows a strong emotion or feeling about A
    This phrase is often followed by words B such as じられない、ひどい、?、うらやましい、びっくり
  6. What (did) A
    Often used with verbs: いう (What did .. say), く (What did .. write);
  7. What is the name of A
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     など    です  
Two, four, six, etc. are even numbers.
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       など         
Man fears disasters such as floods and fires.
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この          バター  チーズ    など        
The store sells foodstuffs, such as butter, cheese, and sugar.

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った寿ぷらなどをべた。
When I went to Japan, I ate Sushi and Tempura etc.
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Construction
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AList of items
など
Basic Examples:
パンなど (bread, milk etc.)

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You will often see など written in kanji as
12 years ago
srm924 - Level 1
 
Things like A; for example A

  1. Marks the end of the non-exhaustive list A
    List A only gives a few of a longer list; these terms are often separated by など or や.
  2. Things like A; for example A
  3. Used to emphasize negative B
    B can be things such as a negative adjective (きらい), or a verb (できない、いらない, etc).
  4. How A; What A
    Shows a very strong feeling A about something.
  5. Shows a strong emotion or feeling about A
    This phrase is often followed by words B such as じられない、ひどい、?、うらやましい、びっくり
  6. What (did) A
    Often used with verbs: いう (What did .. say), く (What did .. write);
  7. What is the name of A
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この みせ だんなど  ゆうめい   
This store's dangos and other things are famous.
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こんな   など          
I won't want to eat something like this.
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    など  もう            
I don't want to think about anything to do with her.

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Construction
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ANoun
 
AVerb: Casual
 
 
など/なんて/なんか
Basic Examples:
(I hate people like you)

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this form of など・なんて・なんか is most commonly used in negative expressions
11 years ago
avatar mysticfive - Level 687
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なんか is often used in place of など in colloquial speech.

のことなどもうらない。"I don't care anymore about you (someone like you)"

(thanks to for this sentence)

なんて can also be used in place of など, it's often used when you're upset, angry, or surprised.

Sentences from mireille:

あなたなんかきらい。もうないで。
20のレポートを1いたなんて、すごいねえ。なんか3のレポートもけない。
っぽいね。まだ15だなんてじられないよ。
12 years ago
avatar マイコー (Site admin) - Level 62
 
Used to emphasize negative B
B can be things such as a negative adjective (きらい), or a verb (できない、いらない, etc).

  1. Marks the end of the non-exhaustive list A
    List A only gives a few of a longer list; these terms are often separated by など or や.
  2. Things like A; for example A
  3. Used to emphasize negative B
    B can be things such as a negative adjective (きらい), or a verb (できない、いらない, etc).
  4. How A; What A
    Shows a very strong feeling A about something.
  5. Shows a strong emotion or feeling about A
    This phrase is often followed by words B such as じられない、ひどい、?、うらやましい、びっくり
  6. What (did) A
    Often used with verbs: いう (What did .. say), く (What did .. write);
  7. What is the name of A
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こんな  なんか いや    
I don't like clothes like this.
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I just can't trust her opinion.
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 なんか じゃ でき っこない   
There's no way someone like me could do it.

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鹿なんてい。
I hate stupid people.
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ええ! なんてい!
What! I really hate natto!
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あのなんか
That person is somewhat disgusting.
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Construction
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ANoun など/なんて/なんか
 
Aな-adjective なんて
 
AVerb: Casual なんて
 
Aい-adjective なんて
 
 
BNegative
Basic Examples:
ってるなど (I hate stuck-up people)

(dirty places are disgusting)

れちゃう (running is just exhausting)

らない ((I) don't need anything cheap)

Notes
なんて and なんか can replace など in casual speech.
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Japanese equivalent of "So", for negative feelings.
8 years ago
avatar むしゃむしゃ - Level 103
 
How A; What A
Shows a very strong feeling A about something.

  1. Marks the end of the non-exhaustive list A
    List A only gives a few of a longer list; these terms are often separated by など or や.
  2. Things like A; for example A
  3. Used to emphasize negative B
    B can be things such as a negative adjective (きらい), or a verb (できない、いらない, etc).
  4. How A; What A
    Shows a very strong feeling A about something.
  5. Shows a strong emotion or feeling about A
    This phrase is often followed by words B such as じられない、ひどい、?、うらやましい、びっくり
  6. What (did) A
    Often used with verbs: いう (What did .. say), く (What did .. write);
  7. What is the name of A
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      でしょう  
What beautiful scenery.
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     いい   です  
I'm in just the best mood.

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なんて/なんと
Aい-adjective
Basic Examples:
かしい (how nostalgic)

なんて/なんと
ANoun
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Shows a strong emotion or feeling about A
This phrase is often followed by words B such as じられない、ひどい、?、うらやましい、びっくり

  1. Marks the end of the non-exhaustive list A
    List A only gives a few of a longer list; these terms are often separated by など or や.
  2. Things like A; for example A
  3. Used to emphasize negative B
    B can be things such as a negative adjective (きらい), or a verb (できない、いらない, etc).
  4. How A; What A
    Shows a very strong feeling A about something.
  5. Shows a strong emotion or feeling about A
    This phrase is often followed by words B such as じられない、ひどい、?、うらやましい、びっくり
  6. What (did) A
    Often used with verbs: いう (What did .. say), く (What did .. write);
  7. What is the name of A
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        など ある ものか  
There's just no way he could betray me.
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よりによって 退       
Of all things, to be expelled from school..

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Construction
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Aい-adjective
なんて
BFeelings
AVerb: Dictionary Form
なんて
Basic Examples:
するじられない (can't believe (they) would lie)

Aな-adjective
なんて
ANoun
なんて
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なんて can be used to express criticism or display surprise.
になるなんてじられない。できないのに。I can't believe the fact of him becoming a doctor. He can't even cook fish.
こんなにがうまいなんてられなかった。
I had no idea you can sing so well!

Conversational use.
1 year ago
咲乱 - Level 1
 
What (did) A
Often used with verbs: いう (What did .. say), く (What did .. write);

  1. Marks the end of the non-exhaustive list A
    List A only gives a few of a longer list; these terms are often separated by など or や.
  2. Things like A; for example A
  3. Used to emphasize negative B
    B can be things such as a negative adjective (きらい), or a verb (できない、いらない, etc).
  4. How A; What A
    Shows a very strong feeling A about something.
  5. Shows a strong emotion or feeling about A
    This phrase is often followed by words B such as じられない、ひどい、?、うらやましい、びっくり
  6. What (did) A
    Often used with verbs: いう (What did .. say), く (What did .. write);
  7. What is the name of A
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What did you just say?
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この             
What do these kanji say?

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AVerb: Casual
Basic Examples:
(what did (someone) say)

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What is the name of A

  1. Marks the end of the non-exhaustive list A
    List A only gives a few of a longer list; these terms are often separated by など or や.
  2. Things like A; for example A
  3. Used to emphasize negative B
    B can be things such as a negative adjective (きらい), or a verb (できない、いらない, etc).
  4. How A; What A
    Shows a very strong feeling A about something.
  5. Shows a strong emotion or feeling about A
    This phrase is often followed by words B such as じられない、ひどい、?、うらやましい、びっくり
  6. What (did) A
    Often used with verbs: いう (What did .. say), く (What did .. write);
  7. What is the name of A
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この         ですか  
What's the name of this flower?
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あの           だっけ  
What again is the name of that person?

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いう
ANoun
Basic Examples:
(What's the dog's name)

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Discussion about this grammar
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Years Studied: 2
Level: 1, : 42
など can be used not just for lists.
It's also used in conversation when speaking generally and in a roundabout way about someone or something.
For this kind of things なんか is used more often, but still.

For examples...

のことなどもうらない。"I don't care anymore about you (someone like you)"

but also

コーヒーなどいかがですか "How about something like a coffee?"


Sorry for my english XD I hope I explained myself at least in a decent way :P
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12 years ago
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Level: 62, : 5,665
No problems at all with your English :). Thanks so much for this additional meaning! I've gone ahead and added it to this page (second meaning on the page). I used your first sentence as an example for なんか, but feel free to use the second sentence as a user sentence :)
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12 years ago
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I'm glad I've been somehow useful :D
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12 years ago
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Studying: JLPT N3 & JLPT 2
Level: 1, : 94
Update for the second meaning:

Plain form verb + など・なんて
Noun + (だ+) など・なんて・なんか
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12 years ago
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Level: 62, : 5,665
Added some of the constructions - do you have some examples of the なんて/なんか usage? I would think that's not the general usage of it, but one way in which it's used (might be better as a usage note?)
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12 years ago
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Years Studied: 3
Studying: JLPT N3 & JLPT 2
Level: 1, : 94
あなたなんかきらい。もうないで。
20のレポートを1いたなんて、すごいねえ。なんか3のレポートもけない。
っぽいね。まだ15だなんてじられないよ。
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12 years ago
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Level: 62, : 5,665
Oooh, you mean using those instead of など, got it :). There's already a usage-note for なんか, but I'll mention なんて as well. Thanks!
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12 years ago
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It would be great if なんて and なんか were searchable with など :-) if that's possible..
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11 years ago
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Level: 62, : 5,665
They *should* be, but I can think of one reason as to why they might not be; will look into it later today!
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11 years ago
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On the how to section of the 2nd usage of など, it says to drop い and add く before など for い-adjectives, but the example right below that says, "いなどいらない."
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10 years ago
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Level: 62, : 5,665
I went ahead and changed it - it can take the く form depending on what follows the など, but there are probably more cases where it remains the same.
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10 years ago
guest
I just talked with a native speaker who told me that there's really no such thing as the 「て form + など」 construct. Apparently, due to the formal nature of など, you have to either rearrange the sentence to be more formal, or use one of the alternatives, なんか or なんて (as discussed above).

Specifically, I showed her the four examples under the second listed meaning. She said that this sentence is perfect:

ってるなどきらい -- I hate stuck-up people

She said though that the other three needed to be changed to use など. For instance:

ってなどつかれちゃう -- running is just exhausting

should be:

などは、つかれます。

So, it seems to me that the second meaning on this page still works, but only if a noun (possibly sans で) precedes など.

I think that it has mostly to do with mixing politeness levels more than anything. It would be kind of like using words throughout your sentences, but ending them with verbs in dictionary form - it just sounds too unnatural.

Your thoughts?
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10 years ago
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Level: 62, : 5,665
So..the non Noun constructs can be used the way they are if its なんか or なんて, whereas only the Noun construct can be used with all three?
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10 years ago
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Level: 62, : 5,665
Actually, I am looking at a grammar dictionary which confirms that, but takes it further, and says that while all the constructs can use なんて, only the N construct can use など or なんか.
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10 years ago
guest
OK, I talked with her a bit more about it...I'll paste what she said:

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I think there are two different meanings in など

1. is "etc"
2. is "such a"

1. ることなどがきです。
I like riding a bicycle and so on.

2. ることなど、きではない。
I don't like such a riding a bicycle thing (because it's dangerous or something)

I think you want you use など in second usage, and you have to use negative usage.
After など、negative sentence must follow.

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Then, she had me write a sentence, so I came up with:

することなどきではない。

She said this was fine, OR you could also say:

などきではない。

She confirmed that before など, there must be a noun. Also, she said that なんか (and I had assumed by extension なんて, but your grammar book says otherwise?) functions exactly the same in this usage as など, it just sounds casual. But she said you have to be careful to match the politeness of the verb at the end of the sentence, so for instance:

なんかきじゃない。

Is better than:

なんかきではない。
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10 years ago (Edited 10 years ago.)
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Level: 62, : 5,665
Yea - the grammar book (it is actually an entry for なんて, with additional info for なんか and など) shows it coming after all word types.
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10 years ago
Years Studied: 2007
Studying: learn japanese
Level: 1, : 5
you are really great. With one sentence i learn more.
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9 years ago
guest
Not sure whether this was already added somewhere on Renshuu,
but なんて (formally, なんと) can also emphasize something positive.
For example, something like "I can't believe she's that cute!" would be
"そんなにかわいいなんて(じられない)!"
You could also say "このはなんてかわいいんだ!" (How cute is this dog!/How cute this dog is!)
I guess it could be translated as "how [adj.] it is!"
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2 years ago (Edited 2 years ago.)
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Level: 62, : 5,665
Sorry for the delay! After looking into multiple sources, I was able to come up with classifications that I think will fit the two different usages you mentioned. I do not have example sentences up yet, but we are hoping to boost the sentences in the grammar library through the rest of this year!
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2 years ago



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