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As many/much as A

  1. As many/much as A
  2. Also A, A as well
  3. Nothing/no one/nobody (A)
    A is the question term such as nothing, no one, nowhere, etc (だれ+も = no one, なに+も = nothing). This is followed by a negative statement B that links to A
  4. (not) Even A
    The negative form is made when the pattern is followed by a negative verb.
  5. Neither A nor B
    A and B are generally opposites (hot/cold, easy/hard, etc.)
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    さん         っている  
My grandfather has four dogs.
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この               かった  
It took three whole days to write this short report.
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            きいです  
Hokkaido is many times larger than the Tokyo area.
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  ラジオ      っている   
Why do you have three radios?
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こんなに  宿   あって  どうしたら いい    
I have so much homework, what should I do.

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Construction
ANoun (number/counter)+
Examples:
(as many as ten times)

Notes
When も is added, this emphasizes that the number/amount is above normal.


Usages notes (by users)
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with a negative verb it can mean as little as.
7+ years ago
shirothekiller - 2195 , 167
 
Also A, A as well

  1. As many/much as A
  2. Also A, A as well
  3. Nothing/no one/nobody (A)
    A is the question term such as nothing, no one, nowhere, etc (だれ+も = no one, なに+も = nothing). This is followed by a negative statement B that links to A
  4. (not) Even A
    The negative form is made when the pattern is followed by a negative verb.
  5. Neither A nor B
    A and B are generally opposites (hot/cold, easy/hard, etc.)
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        パーティー    そう です  
He and she will also be coming to the party tonight.
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ケーキ   べた けど  ドーナツ   べたい   
I've already eaten cake, but I want to eat donuts, too.
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3        ハワイ   きました  
They also went to Hawaii three years ago.
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      たくさん  いたい  
I want to have lots of both cats and dogs (as pets)!
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きっと    じよう   った でしょう  
Surely he too felt the same way.

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I will go to school too.
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しいっていて
It is raining heavenly outside and the wind is strong too.
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べた。べた。
I ate tofu. I ate fish, too.
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きたい。
I also want to go to Ueno zoo.
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そしてそうである
He's a teacher and so am I.
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だけではなくかった
Not only you but I am also to blame.
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まれロンドンです
I was born and brought up in London.
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ひどいきましたありますからみます
I caught a terrible cold. I have a fever too. So I will rest.
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Construction
ANoun
AVerb: Dictionary Form
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Examples:
(me too)



Usages notes (by users)
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When using も in this way, the subjects being compared have to be different. For example, it would be incorrect to say ジョンさんはです。ジョンさんもいです。 (John is kind. John is also tall.) Compare: ジョンさんはです。メアリーさんもです。 (John is kind. Mary is also kind.)
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Nothing/no one/nobody (A)
A is the question term such as nothing, no one, nowhere, etc (だれ+も = no one, なに+も = nothing). This is followed by a negative statement B that links to A

  1. As many/much as A
  2. Also A, A as well
  3. Nothing/no one/nobody (A)
    A is the question term such as nothing, no one, nowhere, etc (だれ+も = no one, なに+も = nothing). This is followed by a negative statement B that links to A
  4. (not) Even A
    The negative form is made when the pattern is followed by a negative verb.
  5. Neither A nor B
    A and B are generally opposites (hot/cold, easy/hard, etc.)
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ゆき った から だれも なかった  
It snowed so no one came.
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  もなく      りました  
I (they) returned safely without incident.
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    った   だれも いなかった  
We entered the store, but no one was there.
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     べたくない んです  
I don't want to eat anything now.
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 している   どこにもない  
The book I'm looking for is nowhere (to be found).
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 にして  しい         
There is nothing I want you to do.

Getting the sentences
Construction
AQuestion word++BNegative statement
Examples:
だれもいない (no one)



Usages notes (by users)
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Nowhere is not どこも; it is usually paired with the particles に or で (depending on the verb that follows).
ボールはどこでもつからない - I can't find the ball anywhere.
おとうとはどこにもいない! - My brother isn't anywhere!
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(not) Even A
The negative form is made when the pattern is followed by a negative verb.

  1. As many/much as A
  2. Also A, A as well
  3. Nothing/no one/nobody (A)
    A is the question term such as nothing, no one, nowhere, etc (だれ+も = no one, なに+も = nothing). This is followed by a negative statement B that links to A
  4. (not) Even A
    The negative form is made when the pattern is followed by a negative verb.
  5. Neither A nor B
    A and B are generally opposites (hot/cold, easy/hard, etc.)
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    だけでなく         きました  
Everyone was surprised because Takada is good at not just singing but drawing as well.
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              がります  
He's not one for exercise, and he doesn't like walking either.
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        ほとんど 使 えない  
My grandfather can hardly even use a cell phone.

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そのニュースらなかった
Even he didn't know that news.
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もそのことをらない。
Even a teacher doesn't know that.
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にもしいです。
Even for an adult, it's difficult.
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った。
Even I laughed.
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きくてビルされた
The tsunami was so big, even buildings were washed away.
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Construction
ANoun+
Examples:
(even a Japanese person)

ANoun phrase+
Examples:
(even when (one) goes)

AVerb: Stem++しない
Examples:
しない (won't even walk)



Usages notes (by users)
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With する verbs, treat it like a noun:
する ー> もしない
する ー> もしない
7+ years ago
avatar emmy - 6549 , 538
 
Neither A nor B
A and B are generally opposites (hot/cold, easy/hard, etc.)

  1. As many/much as A
  2. Also A, A as well
  3. Nothing/no one/nobody (A)
    A is the question term such as nothing, no one, nowhere, etc (だれ+も = no one, なに+も = nothing). This is followed by a negative statement B that links to A
  4. (not) Even A
    The negative form is made when the pattern is followed by a negative verb.
  5. Neither A nor B
    A and B are generally opposites (hot/cold, easy/hard, etc.)
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Getting the sentences
Construction
Aい-adjective+-い++++Bい-adjective+-い++++ない
Examples:
きくてさくてない (neither big nor small)

Aな-adjective++Bな-adjective++ない
Examples:
ない (Neither simple nor complicated)

ANoun++BNoun++ない
Examples:
アメリカない (neither Japan nor the US)

AVerb: Stem++BVerb: Stem++しない
Examples:
しない (neither coming nor going)



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if you use a question word it can also be used as no- (も-nothing も-no one)
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I added this meaning and one more ('too'). Take a look at it for me and let me know if you think it's clear enough.
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the example sentence for adding も to question words is using the wrong verb, it should be いない not ない.
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Fixed!
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Hmmm, can't 「も」 also simply mean [even]? I think that's where some of the other expressions that incorporate 「も」 (and for which grammar pages already exist) come from, for example: そこまでしなくていい。 Even if you don't do it until there, it's OK. You don't have to go that far. これを使っていい? Even if I use this, is it ok? May I use this? But then, of course, it can be used by itself, following nouns and such: はおそうとしなかった。 She didn't even offer me a cup of tea. I think that this [even] meaning of 「も」 is the key to understanding the particle's use in sentences like this one: いままでたことないようなとってもきなきなです。 It is a gigantic turnip the likes of which he had never even seen before. Now, in English you can leave the word [even] out of the above sentence, because all it is doing is adding emphasis. Similarly, I think that you could have said 「たことない」 in the Japanese version, and the overall meaning wouldn't have really changed. 「も」 is just acting as an emphasis particle in this case, just as [even] is. What do you think?
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I swear that I added this somewhere, let me look into it.
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This covers the first two examples: http://www.renshuu.org/index.php?page=grammar/individual&id=107
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Right, I was looking at that page earlier. Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough - those first two examples already have grammar pages. I was just using them to demonstrate the general [even] meaning of 「も」. The issue I'm wondering about is when [も」 directly follows a noun (or something other than an inflected verb - see the example below). Do you think it deserves a usage on this page? It's pretty common, from what I've been seeing. Here's another example I saw just today on Lang-8, both versions written by a native speaker: はマンガがきなのかかっていない! He still doesn’t even know whether he likes manga or not. I think it's important that we supply this general meaning for 「も」 here, so that if a user reads a sentence like this, then comes to this page to check out what 「も」 could mean in this situation, they won't be confused into trying to reckon one of the extant meanings to somehow fit. I only say this because I did just that, which prompted me to look further into it and post about it.
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Ok, I definitely feel like it could belong on the page. Definition: (not) even [A] Usage structure: [N] も, [Noun clause] も, [Verb stem] も しない What do you think? Edit: note that the 'not' version is brought out when followed by a negative verb/statement.
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Looks great to me! I appreciate you looking into it and pondering over it.
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sooo im guessing the first one is no diffrent from ても/でも?
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Bit different in terms of usage, actually. ても/でも is used with verbs, generally in the sense of "even if": ってもきます。 I'll go even if it rains. でも also appears after nouns and な-adjectives with the same usage, as a form of だ. でもできる work even a student can do And でも can also be used when making suggestions or invitations to show that you'd be open to other alternatives: おでもむ? Want some tea (or something else to drink?) The first usage of も here is used to show extent, and it implies you think doing something to that degree is surprising. 6したの? You studied for six (whole) hours?! も isn't used in either the gentle suggestion or the "even if" sense.
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ahhhh~! thanks :)
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When using も, can't you also create the meaning of anything, anywhere, and anyone? Such as もいいよ: Anything is good. Isn't this why the company DoCoMo chose their name, meaning anywhere?
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It usually includes the で particle (the most common usages), so it is listed on a separate page here: http://www.renshuu.org/index.php?page=grammar/individual&id=122
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Thank you! :]
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I'm also studying on Duolingo, where they have an example sentence:はやくもおそくもないです。They translate it as 'it is neither fast nor slow', so I came looking here for this usage of も as neither, but I don't see it.  Am I looking in the wrong place?
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Alright - so this is not on here yet, but I'll add it! Please check now.
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My copy of Bunkei Jiten also specifies its use with nouns and verbs, as well skipping で for な-adjectives. For example:
もない - neither left nor right.
いもきもしない - neither laugh nor cry.
かもない - neither clever nor foolish.
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Thanks!
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Ah, this is much clearer to me now, cheers!
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under the last/newest usage, you can also use ~くて for い adjectives - like くてもくてもない
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Added! It split up the display for the usages for some reason, but ...don't have time to look at it now!
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